The pain of pneumoconiosis: telling their own stories

Wu Shangyong: “The idea of going out to work is to be able to pay off the debt, what concept did you have at that time? Do not know will get that pneumoconiosis thia! “

Interview time: August 22, 2018

Interview location: Wu Shangyong home

Basic information: Wu Shangyong, born in 1963, suffering from pneumoconiosis stage III, the onset of 07. 1995-2011 in Shaanxi and other places to work in gold mines, also worked as a “small contractor “He also worked as a small contractor. At present, he has not received compensation for his work-related injuries, and is a resident of the village, so his medical expenses can be partially reimbursed. Now he and his wife live in the old house on the mountain, which was rebuilt in 2005 on the basis of the old house, and the traffic is not convenient. My personal savings have been depleted, and I rely on my two daughters who work outside to subsidize the family’s daily expenses.

I was born in 1963, a rabbit, and went out to work in 1995. I was married at that time and had children, both female children. But the children were still very young. At that time, I heard that I was earning money outside. At that time, working in the county, a month is two to three hundred. In the local area can also work, but the work is very little. The work is not fixed, at that time is the marble factory, a month is two or three hundred dollars, basically the salary is not enough. We went out in ’95, when we were in Tongguan, Shaanxi Province, basically private owners. There were no protective measures at that time.

(Q: What kind of mines did private owners run at that time? Gold mines. They are still operating there. At that time is with the private boss dry, dry a day to say yes, then the social order is also chaotic, you like to say yes if you do not recognize (Note: do not know, dialect) or the forces of discord, the other side can not be suppressed, with him to follow the Hebei dry. He does not give money. A good month when there are a thousand dollars. Generally are a few hundred. If I said I did the work with your boss, I have a hard strength in this area, then you say a point to give me. If messed up, you give less or not give, ask for money when you can also beat you up and blow you away. At that time inside the cave, ventilation equipment is not good. After you released the cannon, the smoke inside could not be exhausted. I was a driller, drilling and releasing the cannon. (Q: Was there a simple mask at that time?) At that time, there was no such thing. There was nothing. Safety awareness was not available at that time.

(Q: How many years did you go to school?) I finished junior high school and high school. At that time, I counted a lot of books. Unlike now, the economic strength is not possible, you will also be limited. People, economic strength is not, you say anything is useless. To have the economic strength, then you speak other people still listen to you. (Q: So you’re considered highly educated among the people who work outside, right? Basically, I can count. (Q: Then you should know that this is harmful, work with the boss must have a contract ah and so on.) That’s not true. Contracts are not popular in the nineties, nor are they popular. If you say the boss found you, it depends on how lucky. Big bosses have more money, he also gives you. There is no money, he will not give. It depends on the strength of which party. If the workers can really beat him, he will also give you a lot of money. In fact, out of work, until 2005 to basically complete the formation of a safety management rules. Nine years, the country simply does not have a safe production ah of the word. There is no guarantee for the wages of out-of-home workers. It was not until 2005, I remember it was June, that our country implemented the “Production Safety Law” (Note: “The Production Safety Law of the People’s Republic of China” was published in June 2002 and came into effect in November) At that time, the private sector was simply chaotic. You go out anyway, you take the money wherever you go, there are people for you to rob, no one even control.

(Q: Did your family rely on farming before you went out to work? We grew land, corn, cereals, and rice. There are rice fields here, there are quite a lot of them, all the way up here. We have an average of about twenty feet (Note: 1 mu = 60 square feet), almost to half an acre. (Q: Is it one person or a family? For example, how many water fields does your family have?) The whole family together has more than 80 square meters, so each person can get almost half an acre. The dry land is a little bit bigger than an acre. The dry land is to grow bush and yams. At that time, there was no money at all. If you grow it well, you can eat it, but if you don’t grow it well, you can’t get enough. In those days we had to pay for the grain, pay for the public grain, and pay money. (Q: How was your family’s situation in the village at that time? Basically, it was bad. When you got married in your twenties, you were separated from your family, and the land you were given was not good, and you had a child. When the children are older, the family has more people and needs a lot of money. One baby is 84 years old and one is 89 years old. Both girls went to school, and both went to junior high school. Learning is not good, they also do not miss (books), they went out to work. At that time, Basan’s basic choice is to go out to work. You can not sustain at home. (Q: Were your parents from this village before?) They were both from this village, but now they are gone, that is, they died in 1995, he was 87 years old at that time. I was the youngest of my brothers at that time, the fifth. One of the five brothers was in Miaoba town.

(Q: Did you go out to work by yourself, or with people in the village? If you know someone in the village, ask them, they went out together, two or three of them. Basically, they are relatives and are familiar with each other. There were people in the village who went to Tongguan in the eighties. The earliest people to go out in Bashan were those from Shuanghe and Zhouxi, and they knew that after hearing this, these people knew that they were making money. At that time, it is true that you can also earn money. At that time you sell mine behind the boss’s back, you can also sell a few hundred dollars a day. But if he found out, you have to be beaten. Not found it, you can sell a few hundred in a few hours. That raw stone is white, which contains sulfur, sold to get 2 yuan per pound. You get a bag, you can earn up to two or three hundred dollars. (Q: Is there a case of stealing and selling beaten by the boss? More! Some of them were beaten by the boss with double-barrel shotguns. Some were killed with a single shot, and some were beaten on the legs. At that time, Tongguan was very chaotic. The mines were run by local people with some power. At that time, they were all thin-skinned mines with exposed heads, and could not hit many meters. Nowadays, they all open deep mines, a few thousand meters. It should be said that the money is earned. Drilling a month basically have a thousand pieces. At that time in the mine, the boss gave the ore down to the foreman, the foreman after the mine, the price is higher.

(Q: What was your work and life like there?) The environment was very bad in the nineties. In that mountain is generally built plastic shacks, hot days, cold in winter. At that time, they lived on the mountain, at the edge of the mine. If the shed is built more spacious, that is less people. That if small, it is crowded together to sleep. Work can not say a few hours. You put the piece of gun, finished, even if it is the end of the day, out of the slag on the. The slagman will transport the ore out. After the slag worker finished the slag out, the cannon worker again, taking turns on. So the working hours of the day are not fixed. The slagging out of 3 hours out, 3 hours off. 10 hours out, 10 hours off. We release the cannon is also not fixed. That a stone hard, on eight or nine hours, 11 or 12 hours. If it is soft, one or two hours will also be off duty. (Q: Are all the people working in their twenties? Not necessarily, there are also older people. I am not young. There are teenagers and 14 or 15 year olds who are also there. They were recruited from different places, and they were assigned to a class and lived together. It’s not fixed. (Q: Was there anything like a negotiation with the boss? There are many things. We all encountered. After working, the company does not take the money, but also want to beat people. Sometimes we have more than a dozen workers, you want to fight, we will light a fire, the stool up after also hit. His side softened. At that time is to rely on the fight. You are not hard, he will not pay a penny. If there is a stool on the stool to hit, there is a stick on the stick to hit, no fist to hit. At that time, Tongguan bosses are afraid of Sichuan people. Sichuan people in the past, you ask you are Ba Shan, where I am, a encounter with what happened after you beng up cut (Note: let you go out of the head, dialect), the boss is timid fire (Note: afraid, dialect). Sichuan people are not easy to mess with to hemp (Note: cheat, dialect) his money, the general situation he shall not hemp. That is not like now, you go to ask is not to do the work, then is to do not get the money. At that time, the Basan people like to fight, the boss is basically timid fire. That is not like now. From 2005, the national “Safety Production Law” came out, gradually and gradually improve, you know there is a silicosis. It was probably only in 2003 or 2004 that the state became aware of silicosis, and only then were there protective shields and masks. In 1990s, we didn’t hear of any protective masks at all. In the 1990s, the bosses would go up to the mountain and get workers as long as they could. The bosses were not aware of silicosis. At that time, the hole was punched in, and the ventilation was not good after a deep hole. Even if it was ventilated, the toxic fumes and dust were there. Once people went in, they inhaled it.

(Q: So how did you eat in those days?) Eating is the whole a stove, he gave you a set day. The stove depends on how many people are needed in the cave, there are two dozen, there are 30 or 40. Someone specializes in cooking. At that time, the food was not good, that is, rice, vegetables are lotus white, cabbage ah and so on. Meat well depends on the foreman. Foreman good point, a few days to give you a meal of meat. Bad is half pull a month, or a month without giving you to eat meat. Some of the cooks are Sichuanese, some are foreigners. At that time, with the private sector, a maximum of two or three months, dry up, and then find, or similar work. It is not fixed. Like the big companies now is a fixed job, to do a year or two. At that time, the private boss is not fixed. You are the boss, find me to work for you. He may let you do a few days, he does not want you, then someone else to do, that is not fixed. Aigoo, that is basically said to be in a place to work, only to work for three or two months. After you’ve done it, you’ll go to work if you can find work, and go to play if you can’t find work. (Q: How often did you go home when you were in Tongguan? It was not fixed, but two or three times a year, or three or four times a year. Tongguan is a long way from here, more than 700 kilometers. First, I go to Xi’an, and then to Weinan, Huayin and Tongguan. First, we will go to Wanyuan, and take a train to Wanyuan. First, we will go around to Nanyang in Henan Province. Today’s walk will not arrive until tomorrow afternoon. To change trains.

(Q: So you were mainly in Tongguan at that time? Have you ever changed locations?) Finally go to Luonan, also in Shaanxi, Shangluo region. There are gold and silver mines in Luonan. The first time I went out was in October, right, after the autumn harvest. Then she (Wu’s wife) was left alone, and she was tired for years. At that time, she planted some paddy fields and got help to plow them. Both children were in elementary school. I didn’t come back for the New Year for two years. I didn’t send any money for two years. ’99 or ’01, there wasn’t much work in those years, so I didn’t earn any money. At that time, they were eating, living, driving and wearing. If you say that there is a long-term work, you do not run, then there is money. If you run around, you have to eat and live, but also the fare, a day will cost several hundred.

(Q: When did you build this house?) In 2005, it was basically built with the money earned from part-time work. There are three big houses, two floors. The old part here was built in 1990s. The old house before that had dirt walls, wooden beams and tiles on top. The old house is basically about the same size as this one. The old house has only one floor, not two. At that time also did not count (how much money), materials are used horse pack up. This house is mainly brick and cement. At that time there is no road repair, materials and up to not, can only go to the river, using horses. It cost a lot of money to find horses to pack. Looking for people to work at that time are paid. On the hold is (Note: only, but is, dialect) small work I know little, so I only hire people to do. At that time, everyone went to work outside. The small workers were paid, not necessarily day by day, but together, and they had to make three meals. (Q: Did you spend 50,000 to 60,000?) More than that. If you don’t have the materials, go to his house to buy them. I painted the house personally. The first floor was built in 2005, and the first floor was added a year later with some money. There is money to build up.

(Q: How long did you work in Tongguan?) In 2001, I went to Shangluo area and stayed there for three years until 2004, and after that I went to Huashan, which is also a gold mine. The environment is basically the more you get to the back, the more deposits you find, and the bosses will pay attention to some of them. Some bosses will see that the workers are not good enough to work with the boss. Some bosses have not seen. The good thing is that after 05 years, the country came out with the “Safety Production Regulations”, the private company conditions are strict. 05 years later, workers go out to live in the army’s colorful tent, some live in the kind of cotton tent. Until now, you can say that with that kind of flower rubber paper (note: plastic film, dialect) is not allowed at all. The state does not allow, is the color tent. You to the head, like you go out to drill wells, are required to ventilation equipment. Ventilation equipment is not good, the state will have to give you a stop. Companies are afraid to be stopped. (Q: Which department of the state deal with them?) Deal with a lot of ah, the most important is the Public Security Bureau and the Security Bureau. Public Security is responsible for the control of explosives. Safety production does not belong to it, belongs to the Safety Supervision Bureau. The tax bureau is mainly to collect its taxes. 05 years ago, which government control? Explosives on private trafficking some. As long as the money, then you can immediately help you to buy explosives. The private sector said it was making money. Safety Supervision Bureau at that time also did not have the “Work Safety Law”, it does not care. The government also did not have a document out, which control? Anyway, as long as you have money, who cares about your mountain? But after 2005, the government implemented the safety production, and he had to give you training. The government also started to control silicosis in 2005, and in 2001 and 2002, the state found out that there was pneumoconiosis. At that time, there was no contract, but you had to show your ID card. The Safety Production Law was sound, probably in 2011. It was not until 2011 that the government completed the soundness of the Production Safety Law. In 2011, after the soundness of the law, you have to sign a labor contract to go out to work. How much a month’s salary, how much to pay if injured at work.

(Q: Have you ever signed a labor contract?) Yes, I did. When I was in Huashan, I signed a year. The boss wanted to sign a contract. Because at that time, do not sign the contract security bureau to fine his money. In 2011, after the sound, the company said it signed a contract, and safety production, before the mine set completely. The previous purely belongs to the rural areas with us, to be honest, that there is no personal control. You like now, just say it is on the mine, it also has eight bureaus to control it. Security, public security, taxation, environmental protection, and what else, anyway, is the eight bureaus. Now which company to open a mine, he can not afford to do that document. What the state said, and you said yes, this to you to finish, after leaving a certificate, he shall not give you to do. What is the main reason? I finished with you, you I can not control. I left a certificate. If you’re really bad, I’ll give you a stop. So this certificate it does not finish, it is very difficult for the company to finish that certificate. (Q: After the contract, did the boss buy you workers’ compensation insurance? At that time, there will have to. You do not buy the safety supervision bureau to find out also have to fine you. That insurance bought, only when a major incident is useful. General minor things, which to find him. Worker’s compensation insurance requires unit registration, units to buy together. Like you can not buy a single. He is not allowed to sell. A company has to buy, ten or twenty of that to be able to buy collectively. It is necessary to have a unit, a company, and an official seal to do so. You can’t buy a mine’s workers’ compensation insurance if you want to do it privately.

(Q: What year did you find out you were sick?) In ’07. The cold had been bad at that time. At that time, I was in a private mine in Huayin. Began to catch a cold, and then medical treatment is not good. Once you go to check, check several times, and finally checked out. It was a coughing and sweating body. And then the cold is, after the infusion of fluids, then also basically almost. The first time I pulled it out, it didn’t work again. At that time, I was sick for ten days before I went for a checkup, to Huayin County Hospital. At that time, he asked me if I was still working inside the cave. Then he went to Xijing Hospital (Note: Xijing Hospital is located in Xi’an) to check again. At that time it was all check, fluoroscopy ah, and then check all kinds of blood ah. The money for the examination is all my own. The end and no insurance, and can not be reported. At that time, the examination cost 10,000 to 20,000. At that time, it was written on the top that it was pneumoconiosis. The main thing that could not be diagnosed was pneumoconiosis. The identification, a check there is no tuberculosis, there is no also verification, in that live up, live up, spill over (Note: later, dialect), at that time is an associate professor to me, I am not convinced again, after two days again to go to the registration, hanging the full professor. Then a check, anyway, on the prescribed medicine is not the same, two drugs I am eating. The last thing I ate was to get that inflammation under control. The anti-inflammatory drugs prescribed, anyway, is a big package, I left with a lot of drugs prescribed. After a month of eating, it was basically under control. After the control, there was a year and a half without hair. The first time I drank, I drank again, and I couldn’t get a doctor. At that time, I did not decide how many stages of pneumoconiosis, probably to the second stage or so. Because to the second stage of those diseases is not good treatment, the front basically can resist the past. After finding out, I didn’t work, I didn’t go back home, I was looking for something to do, and I couldn’t find anything to do. For example, management ah other work. This way about five years have passed. At that time in the Xijing Hospital after taking drugs feel okay, more than a year nothing happened. Later is drinking bad. Drinking for half a year, the disease relapsed. A person drink is three or two. And people drink a drink is a lot of bowls, nine pounds eight pounds. When more people ask me to go, a drink is so much.

(Q: Did you have any concept of pneumoconiosis before? At that time there was no concept, no concept, did not know that will get that pneumoconiosis. There were people who got the disease earlier than me, but they didn’t talk about it. I didn’t even know about it before I got it. Not to mention me, many doctors didn’t know. After I got sick, they (workers) all knew about it. After the medical treatment, I felt okay in the end. I’m not considered to be an early detection. At that time, when I was sick, several fellow villagers sent me there, and everything was checked out for a day or two. At that time, the family did not even know, did not say to the family. I came back from the Spring Festival with a basket of medicine, and only then did they know. In Xi’an, after a few of them left, I was also alone in the hospital, and did not tell the family. At that time, it was still moving, is the infusion, after the infusion, is no longer. There is that blessing, hungry themselves down to eat line, it is the elevator. At that time there is no personal walk, it does not need. That is now, you sit when it seems to be a good person, a walk on the gas can not. The family is 07 waxing moon only know. At that time the two female children are grown up. Two daughters are now married, are looking for a local, a township, are working. Both outside the factory, in Guangdong. What exactly do I did not ask. The children are all grown up. The second child is being brought up by us, a boy. What do they know? I also did not tell them, it seems that these years after getting full, people do not look to get anything. 07 years back, at that time, people also feel okay, after a period of medical, feel nothing, and then go to work outside. At that time, the light play, the lower force can not do. It is said to be Mo make force, to people with the shift, management people ah. At that time a month is also a few thousand dollars. This may have done a year or two. Then, the individual got something to get a couple of years, but also with the mining ah those same. Own with people dry, the peak of 40 or 50. At that time is to Huashan repair ropeway, Huashan’s West Peak. It was open-air work. At that time I brought people to do it by myself, there were people everywhere. I usually went out alone. There were many people who would take local people out with them. But with local people, you can not earn money, he complained you. You go to the outside, the outside of those people’s wages are lower. You like the local to the outside one hundred and fifty, to the local two hundred, he also said you give less. Outside you give him my two agreed to do how much money a day. After you have done a reckoning, you can say that there is still that shivering, I slightly returned to you to relax a little. How good he is to you, there are delicious, you do not want to eat he did not accept. Outside the people’s wages are generally lower than the people of Bashan. Bashan’s wages are high, and he does not give you heavy work. Also anyway, you can still find something to do. The last work, it is not than the zero years of work. Zero years of work wages are higher. And then one said yes, you are too stingy hard also not allowed to work, no one to you. (Q: You can do this kind of management work, is it still with your higher level of education? Yes, it is the brain to think more. Another is empty some, you like me, not afraid of so many years, wrapped group (Note: gang, dialect) of people I have never brought a, a find dozens of people, that money we all want to earn. As soon as you sign a contract, you become your workers. You go to recruit people they all know you. One more basically know that we are honest people. The agreement is 500 yuan, you will earn 500 yuan today. Never mind what, you want to earn money people also want to earn money. People do not earn money to give you help ah? Huashan West Peak I just build a platform, other I do not care, steel frame those I do not care. Just flatten that mountain, hit the ground like a dam. How big do you need, so play, you give me a measure of the square number. The package to me is the company of Taian in Shandong, the project of the cableway are built by them. Do this about how much money I can not remember. I led dozens of people’s wages are paid by me. I have been doing this for almost two years. Can earn a little, but also can not earn much. At that time, I felt that my body was still okay, and I was able to keep working. Can also walk to buy materials those. I almost did in 2011. After this and began to play. Play is nothing to drink something. But not rare to play mahjong, is their own few people will play, to play money, not to play money nobody has to play. That time to play the big, one or two hundred. You can place a single times or twice, can. A night is a thousand to two thousand. Later on, he went to open the stone mountain, open marble, also in Huayin. Also burst the mountain down, after that mountain flattened, he can rip up. I did not do the specific, others hired me to help him manage, to find him people. This did not do a year. The money earned was used for medication.

(Q: Did the doctor tell you that early stage pneumoconiosis can be cleansed or something like that? No. Some said no, but some said yes. I didn’t bother to find out more. After I had a lung infection, I kept taking the medicine for a few years, and I never stopped taking it. Anyway, I bought all the best drugs I could get, and I bought all the more expensive ones. Then it was in Chongqing for a few times. In Chongqing Chest Hospital lived for three months, six hospitals did not go. (Q: 14 years the health Planning Commission organized the time you went to check? Went, that time is to identify the second phase. After two days, I committed a serious crime again, and went to check, went to Chongqing to check on the third stage. In Chongqing Daping Hospital. They said to go to the sixth hospital to identify, I now have no re-identification. There is no need. One more, I also went to the CDC in Shaanxi. That hospital I went to after the examination. At that time, the doctor said it was necessary to rest and not to work. Once the medicine was eaten, I saw that I did not have to go then, so I did not think about it.

(Q: Do you want to go to the previous boss and business? That can not find. You work here for two days, there for two days, are private, how do you go to find? And one more thing, it’s useless to look for him even if you find out that there is one. The pneumoconiosis state also has a document, he wants you to you signed a contract, two years and three years later. You will sign a one-year contract, you have to have what to find out that contract, he also does not recognize.

(Q: How much does it cost to take medication?) Did not count. Anyway, I didn’t get back the money I earned in the end, and the children’s money went in. (Q: Do you know that pneumoconiosis will keep getting worse even after you leave the dusty environment? I didn’t know that at that time. At that time, the doctor said that I should quit smoking and drinking, and I quit drinking, but I was a big smoker, so I didn’t quit smoking. Until 14 years, that year went to Chongqing, hospitalized, then only changed. Smoke has not changed, smoke also has harm. Drinking alcohol for half a year, once you drink too much wine, you may not be able to end. The most uncomfortable time is shortness of breath, can not walk far. Once I lived in Chongqing for three months, and once for a month. The three months was close to emphysema. He also had a dao on his lung, which he thought was a cancer. The result was not. The nodule is also there, is also Chongqing Chest Hospital medical, eat a year and a half of medicine. I have bought an oxygen machine. If the gas does not win, I’ll suck it up. Not two years to rely on the baby. I’ve run out of money to eat. And my wife, she’s busy with work. I just sit here all day, the work in the field did not do, cooking I also did not do. All the money from the previous years went to the doctor. Now it’s all the children’s. They also have a big burden. My son-in-law’s family is not too far behind us. But his father died, his mother is more than 80, he has three children, the burden is heavy. The youngest daughter’s baby has always been with us, now nine years old.

(Q: How much did this cost?) I bought it in 15 years. It’s working fine. (Q: Did anyone else help you besides your family?) The government, I went to them last year, I went to them myself. I originally thought I would go with you. I don’t have any money now, but I can’t stop taking that medicine, I have to take it every day. I told them, they made this last year (pointing to the sign of the poor households), starting from this year. At that time, I said, “I don’t look for you in life. It’s the cost of the medicine that I’m here to talk to you about. They also know that I’ve had a lot of medical treatment in the past few years, and they all know that I’ve had so many years of medical treatment. This will reimburse me for my medical expenses. The hospitalization fee is 40% and the medicine fee is 60%. Chongqing hospitalization for three months is not reported, the agricultural cooperation can not report how much. The government is also engaged in some people to visit. (Q: What are your expectations and hopes for the future? No. The government and all walks of life have treated me well. The government and all walks of life are treating me ……, I have a hope ah. I can afford the medicine, like now. Like this disease, we can not earn money. As long as you say yes, the government can let us pay less money on it.

(Q: There are no other financial resources in the family now?) Yes. We can’t all rely on the children, they are also very busy working outside. I have a family nearby, but I only have the elderly and children.

(Q: Do you worry about your own health when you see other people die from this disease? I’m not worried about that. Is there anything to get? I would say it is to play it, also played so many years did not do, the money is also medical to so much, treatment that is to say, they said these did not get a little money, to return the treatment to take a one-time 70,000 to 80,000. How can I get this money from a job? Sometimes, I have a thousand dollars. I put that thousand dollars of medical treatment. A ruthless is a large hospital, a little not that is a small hospital. You can’t cure this, the country does not have this medicine, the world does not have this medicine to cure this disease. Then you say is the years live well on her (pointed to his wife), work all day long. You see, this year, anyway, the long-term medicine does not work. You first in the medicine, medicine to eat so many years, also have a drug resistance, you say what a solution?

(Q: What did you think when you went out to work? (Want to come back or want to move to the city to live? At that time, the idea was to go out and pay off the debt, at that time, people were so bitter. If you are suffering, you can say that you can earn some money to live a good life, and once you build a house, you can live a better life. (Q: Will you talk to the children about what they will do in the future? That is to say, even if the money is a little less, you can not go to the dusty places. We were just desperate to earn money, even if the old life do not want. You now take money, sometimes, you now take money can not buy life. Now earn a little, you just maintain, I do not want my children to get this. (Q: Do they want to stay in the city?) (Q: Do they want to stay in the city?) No. But they don’t have money either, and they’ve been using their money for the past few years. Now she (Wu’s wife) grows yams, raises two pigs, and has a dozen chickens, the kind of chicks. What kind of a source of livelihood? Usually she goes to buy medicine. (Wu’s wife: yesterday I just went to the, more than two hundred. There are invoices to report. You like mealybug [Note: a traditional Chinese medicine], Western ginseng like can not be reported. (Not the outpatient ones.) (Q: Who prescribed mealybug for you?) (Q: Who prescribed mealybug to you?) No one prescribed it, but I bought it online and said it is for the lungs. This is expensive!