A: Map censorship has affected the normal performance of many works, making the publishing industry talk about maps
B: Maps should be regulated, and the publishing industry is not good enough
A: Not at all, because the review process of the lengthy bureaucratic, simply hate not to bother me written on the face
B: The review process is not good, then say the review process, and whether to review is a different matter
A: Why do we need to review? If there is a mistake in the map, there are ready-made means to punish the book quality regulations
B：Theoretically, maps belong to mapping products, according to the regulations is the management of the competent agencies
A: Mapping maps and schematic maps are two different things. If it is a mapping map, there are natural methods to manage it in a confidential way.
B: Schematic maps can’t be missing arms and legs, since there is no quality assurance measures for mapping, you can only keep an eye on your mapping results
A: If there are errors, the publishing organization will naturally be punished, why should the map be singled out from the book quality? Have you ever sent a map for review?
B: Sending a map for review is a bad experience and whether it should be sent for review are two different things. A bad experience does not mean that the matter should not be there, but you can criticize the inefficiency. Isn’t it a normal practice to check and correct errors before release?
A: not normal, pre-release review is the units of self-audit rather than sent to review, the press and publication management agencies do not require pre-publication review of the content, if so engaged in newspapers and magazines such as time-sensitive still out of the
B: cartography there is no professional qualification access threshold, now is just a random a cat or dog can set vector map to do a map out, do out is missing arms and legs. Since the process is not controllable, then control your results
A: It is right that any dog or cat can make a map. The problem is to punish the publisher is, has always been the case
B: XX Observatory’s map of China can be keyed to Tibetan South
A: So what? What is the essential difference between affecting the overall situation of the unification of the motherland, and scientific errors?
B: Undergraduates teach cartography with special emphasis on the political properties of maps, and maps are not just a technical issue.
A: There is no doubt that officially published maps have political significance, but it is ridiculous to impose political significance on general knowledge maps.
B: If you don’t want to impose it, someone will do the opposite
A: The politician who pointed to the food map to make since ancient times?
B: Food maps do not argue the proposition that “all errors in unofficial maps do not affect claims of sovereignty”
A: You need to argue that “unofficial maps affect sovereignty claims”
B: There are so many maps of Tibet and Taiwan on the Internet.
A: How do maps on the Internet affect our sovereignty claims?
B: This kind of misconception will be solidified in the international community, and then when there is action to be taken, there will be more things to worry about
A: What does that have to do with our map review? We review the maps of foreign countries?
B: Then let even our own home are not care ~?
A: What you have to prove is that “in the past, when there was no audit, the wrong maps published in China had an impact on our sovereignty claim”. The truth is that there have always been audits of the content of books and magazines, mainly in the form of quality control of finished books (which can of course be reported). However, maps are a very commonly used content element (compared to political and religious issues), so why should they need to be reviewed by a separate, specially established department beforehand.
B: So you’re saying that we should just let violations that don’t have an impact go? Maps are a special content element.
A: If it doesn’t have an impact, it’s the same as aliasing, so it’s a good idea to let it go. There is no impact, but also tube, is not a superfluous. You first have to prove that it is special
B: When the time comes, the wrong publication is to continue to issue or take back the destruction of ah, the potential cost of most
A: prior review is the most costly
B: Because the experience is not good to say that this thing should not be done, this way of thinking is problematic
A: Bad experience is, of course, on the one hand, but on the other hand, what is the essential difference between a map and a textual representation, why should it be reviewed beforehand?
B: It’s not like there are no cases of wrong maps affecting sovereignty claims (1953 France and England Minquière and Aekhus Island and 1962 Cambodia and Thailand Preah Vihear Temple are given as examples)
A: Both of your examples are official maps
B: You can tell at a glance whether there is Taiwan or Tibetan South
A: Who would take a map without Taiwan and Tibetan South to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and say that they do not belong to China because they are shown on the map? Unless this map is issued by your Ministry of Foreign Affairs
B: You’re just being a rascal, you can let it go without making a mistake to the Foreign Ministry
A: You are the one who is stirring things up, okay? If you give any example, “In the past, when there was no audit, the wrong maps published in China had an impact on our sovereignty claim “, I will admit that the audit is justified
B: Since there is no impact why not draw the right one, this is not deliberately looking for a problem
A: Why is there always a typo in the book? Of course because it did not see rather than the author of the editor intentionally well
B: either the preliminaries only professionally qualified people can map, since there is no threshold when the map is made, it depends on the results of the gatekeeper you
A: this learning valve thinking is really shameful ……
B: to be professionally qualified is to learn valve ah
A: Of course, what makes it impossible to draw a map without qualifications. No qualification is not also can not write a manuscript to write an article. Funny thing is that the specification of the map review is confidential map, huh
Why are maps prone to errors? Because the use of Western base map ah, then why not use the Chinese base map? Because you didn’t provide it. The United States has a large number of maps without Alaska Hawaii Guam Puerto Rico, there are hairline political implications
B: We could care less if we had the hegemony of the United States. And Alaska Hawaii Guam Puerto Rico are out of control of the United States itself. If Alaska Russia is in control, Hawaii has a hostile government every day shouting independence, you see the Americans in do not care
A: Well, you do an experiment to try it
B: to the United States can really fall to this state I can wake up laughing in my dreams, I would like to
A: After all this talk, there is no example of the publication of wrongly indicated maps leading to sovereignty problems, which means that this concern is purely imaginary
B: Publications can affect public perception
A: The words will also affect the public perception. This kind of influence on perception has nothing to do with sovereignty politics. If you put out a map of China, the general reader will not say that you omitted to draw Tibetan South, it shows that Tibetan South is not China. Only the official map has this meaning
B: One minute you say that you can punish the wrong map afterwards, and then you say that the wrong map has no effect.
A: It depends on the impact. If you put out a map of Tibetan South or Tibetan atlas, and specifically do not draw Tibetan South, of course there is an impact. If you draw a map of Chinese cuisine and leave Tibetan south, it’s the same level of mistake as a typo
B: That is also a “Chinese” food map, and the map does not draw Tibetan, which is also the same as you say “Tibetan South is not Chinese”
A: I’m against this kind of tactic of making a political mistake out of a business mistake
B: I am against the tactic of making this kind of mistake smaller and whitewashing it as just a matter of mistake
A: The fact is that it is just a matter of mistake. No one thinks that Tibetan South is not China’s, and sorrowfully deducts Tibetan South from China’s food map. This kind of hatchet job is too common in the Cultural Revolution.
B: Since you know that Tibetan is Chinese, you have to find a reason that “food map does not affect the sovereignty” and draw a wrong map for what?
A: Because of the mistake, did not see ah, the dictionary can not guarantee that there is not a misspelled word. So really think paperclip kind is deliberately draw a wrong map ah …… really unexpected
B: Then you admit to yourself that there will be mistakes, then why do you still refuse others to give you gatekeeper
A: Because this prior review seriously affects the normal use of the map
B: low efficiency you go spray low efficiency ah
A: This efficiency is not the rules of your prior review brought about? Efficiency is very important for the operation of the entire community
B: So the whole review is taken away ~? Audit efficiency is low you can appeal to improve the efficiency of the audit
A: Yes, it’s a meaningless step. The quality control of the finished book already includes the review of the map. This kind of prior review will reduce efficiency, affect the dissemination of cultural works, and cause corruption, but as for the benefits, I don’t see any.
B: Actually, what you want to say is that it affects the interests of the industry, right?
A: books to delete the map is most convenient, but unfortunately for the reader, less important intuitive understanding of the method. Now so the more autistic, the more domestic map works are less, and finally everyone uses foreign, vicious circle
On April 2, the international clothing brand H&M, which suffered a boycott fiasco in China because of the Xinjiang cotton issue, was interviewed by Chinese authorities. Chinese officials said that the company’s official website exists “problematic China map”, the official website of the operating company “corrected the error at the first time after being notified. However, Chinese officials did not specify which map or say what was wrong with it. A statement from Shanghai authorities said, “After H&M official website operator Haynes & Morris (Shanghai) Commercial Co. corrected the error at the first time after being notified, the city’s Planning and Natural Resources Bureau and the city’s Internet Information Office then conducted a joint interview with it. H&M official website currently can not find any maps, only some products with the world map pattern, these pattern-style maps are only marked with the continents. “NetInfo Shanghai” said that in the interview, China ordered H&M to run the network in accordance with the law, to “earnestly study the Law of the People’s Republic of China on Network Security, the Law of the People’s Republic of China on Surveying and Mapping, the Regulations on Map Management and other laws and regulations, to make a firm awareness of the national map, and to truly ‘standardize the use of maps can’t be wrong at all ‘.
This is the latest trouble for the Swedish-based company in China, where its products have been subject to an officially encouraged mass boycott after H&M expressed concern about alleged human rights abuses in Xinjiang in 2020 and said it would no longer use cotton produced in the region, a statement that recently resurfaced on social media. Last week, the company said it would work to regain the trust and confidence of its Chinese customers, colleagues and business partners. But Chinese official media called the statement “insincere. The interview by the Chinese authorities was seen by netizens as a “desire to add insult to injury” and was “The authorities are deliberately looking for trouble, followed by industry and commerce, taxation and firefighting. “
The following comments were collected by China Digital Times editors from the Internet.
Nobody: the authorities deliberately looking for trouble, followed by industry and commerce, taxation, fire
Love China Anti-CCP: Foreign companies should immediately withdraw from the mainland in order to contain the threat of the Chinese Communist virus
Jueyuan: Provocation and national security, the two major assets of the CCP.
Finethegap: want to add to the crime, look bad, the posture is not right to fight
Jacky: the Chinese Communist Party saw the failure of the boycott, the Chinese people do not eat the official media that set, villainous virtues again, deliberately looking for recommendations
yanran: Chinese people because of a web page a map extremely dissatisfied, but the northeast corrupt officials 2709 suites, Lai Xiaomin 1.7 billion but did not see how angry they are, may be to the system can not help it.
Real cepheus: Why against H&M?Because of the epidemic relationship, H&M business is greatly affected, originally in contraction, for the brand image and take care of the European and American markets, publicly announced to stop using Xinjiang blood cotton, coupled with the EU sanctions Xinjiang diao officials, the EU and can not become a solid backer of H&M to protect human rights aspirations, in the end, the EU is too soft. H&M’s withdrawal from the mainland market is almost a foregone conclusion!
Rex Nain: H & M can privately mobilize global consumers to boycott Chinese blood cotton, as long as the boycott of 30% of Chinese clothing on tens of billions of dollars.
SHINJUUICHIROU: H & M is now being killed to make an example of monkeys, what problem map problem statement, tell foreign investors to force them to stand in line.
pan: glass heart, can not touch.
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