Senior federal sources revealed that Attorney General William Barr and President Trump exchanged heated words in a private discussion over the president’s belief that Barr failed to launch a proper investigation into 2020 election fraud, Thomas Paine’s podcast said on the air Thursday. President Trump told Barr to consider an early exit from public office. President Trump said: “He (Barr) is not used to being criticized. It’s an ugly and loud fight.”
The podcast was hosted by Mike Thomas Paine Moore, a journalist and radio host who now serves as the chief shady exposé reporter (Muckraker) for the website True Pundit.) Previously, he worked for the FBI, the White House, the DEA and numerous other intelligence agencies and private institutions. Moore has won the coveted Gerald Loeb Award for journalism and is a two-time Pulitzer Prize nominee for investigative journalism. As a Certified Fraud Examiner, Moore led Citi’s anti-money laundering operations in Chicago, Los Angeles, Delaware and parts of New York City. He has expertise in covert telecommunications, human intelligence (HUMINT) and open source intelligence (OSINT) collection. The Gerald Loeb Award, also known as the Gerald Loeb Award for Excellence in Business and Financial Journalism, recognizes excellence in journalism, particularly in business, finance and economics.
The following is an excerpt from a recording of the relevant portion of the Thomas Penn Podcast.
This news was told on the morning of December 9th, it was news that came out of the FBI that the Justice Department was looking for and tracking up to 500,000 ballots, probably more, let’s just say 500,000. That’s what the source in Washington, D.C., said, 500,000 ballots to four battleground states, the four battleground states where Texas is prosecuting. We’ve gone over those details, and you can listen to the broadcast on the morning of December 9th.
Presumably, President Trump spoke with Attorney General William Barr, and Trump believes Barr is not doing enough to follow up on the election fraud investigation. A few days ago the Justice Department had not yet committed to an investigation or allowed the FBI to investigate the 500,000 votes, except that the FBI Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department, are investigating isolated cases and outbreaks of election fraud in different U.S. Attorney’s offices in different states. As more and more evidence poured in, more meetings were held in Washington, D.C., with more people involved. The president, presidential advisers and legal counsel all agreed that there was absolutely enough information for the Justice Department to open a larger investigation. But Barr was unwilling to commit resources to an investigation, and the president was very upset about that, and they both went toe-to-toe. What we do know is that President Trump pissed Barr off as bright as a Christmas tree, and the situation was a little tense, screaming, roaring, and Barr was not happy with the way President Trump treated him.
But the well of indignation had a positive impact to some extent, so to speak, and Barr eventually put resources into the investigation. According to our information, Barr got federal prosecutors in Pennsylvania to oversee the FBI’s investigation of 500,000 ballots, and probably more than 500,000. So President Trump can let off a little bit of steam, and it’s definitely a shift.
Barr is not doing his job as attorney general. President Trump is basically saying, why don’t you do your job? To put it mildly, President Trump has been very frustrated. Barr was unhappy with the way the president talked to him and felt that he was getting a lot of attention, and then later it became known to the media and certain people at the Justice Department, and those same people spread the word to the media that Barr was considering retiring or resigning if Trump didn’t continue for a second term.
These guys are pretty funny with their revelations, and once again, thanks to the top sources who gave us the information. If President Trump doesn’t personally tune in to Barr, the FBI investigation won’t become a national one. We’ll be watching where the investigation goes and how it progresses next, and it’s a small consolation to know that things are moving forward at the moment. As for what the FBI is like, we all know what it’s like. All we can do is report on how things are progressing, we can’t predict the future, but we will tell you the truth, one step forward and we will see the results.
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