Interview: Su Ziyun on CCP’s Foreign Ministry Response to Sensitive Issues

In an interview with the Associated Press on April 18, Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng responded to sensitive issues on the current situation, including U.S.-China relations, Taiwan, and the South China Sea, etc. On April 20, Su Ziyun, director of the Institute of Military Strategy and Industry at Taiwan’s Institute for National Defense and Security Studies, gave an exclusive interview with a reporter from the Epoch Times to explain in detail Le’s response.

The Chinese Communist Party’s big foreign propaganda can only be shown to domestic people

When asked by an Associated Press reporter on the subject of U.S.-China relations on the 18th, Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng said, “China is not an opponent of the United States, let alone an enemy, but an anti-epidemic teammate and development partner. The U.S.-China relationship must be set right and teammates must not be treated as adversaries. Facing the challenges of the epidemic, China and the United States can only work together to overcome the difficulties of the times.”

Le Yucheng took the initiative to mention the visit of John Kerry, the U.S. president’s special envoy on climate issues, to China, saying, “In the past two days, Kerry, the U.S. president’s special envoy on climate issues, is visiting China to discuss cooperation to address climate change, which are positive and should be encouraged cooperation.”

In response, Su Ziyun said that the Chinese Communist Party has done so much over the years that Western democracies no longer trust it, and that its big outreach is no longer effective for democracies, but only for the domestic public.

Su Ziyun said, “First, the people within the Chinese Communist Party cannot be equal; second, in democratic countries, the United States, it is less likely to believe in the Chinese Communist Party’s relevant practices anymore, because the Chinese Communist Party has not cared about Western democracies over the past decade, and it will not make structural changes.”

As an example, he said that in 1997, the then Clinton introduced a national security strategy to allow the CCP to grow economically and evolve the CCP peacefully into a democracy. But then in 2017, it was deemed impossible for the CCP to evolve, and U.S. high technology was used by the CCP to develop weapons and to monitor China’s own people. So by now in 2021, it is also impossible for the United States to trust that the CCP will become a responsible ally.

“Back then, Hong Kong also claimed ‘one country, two systems,’ but from the anti-sending of China in 2019 to the later National Security Law, all these show that the CCP’s authoritarian nature will not change, and the West, led by the U.S., will not believe too much in the CCP’s unilateral rhetoric, so the CCP’s big foreign propaganda should have little effect So the CCP’s big foreign propaganda should be ineffective.” Su Ziyun said.

Since taking office, the Biden administration has basically continued the Trump administration’s policies on China, including further increasing interaction with Taiwan, strengthening South China Sea cruises, meetings between the heads of the U.S., Japan, India and Australia, and a bilateral summit and joint statement between the U.S. and Japanese heads.

During the opening remarks of the U.S.-China talks in Alaska in March this year, Yang Jiechi, a member of the Chinese Communist Party’s Politburo, shocked the international community with his remark that “China does not eat this”, which was said to be inconsistent with diplomatic etiquette. According to Su Ziyun, such remarks by the Chinese Communist Party “only highlight Beijing’s brutality to the international community, but Beijing is turning diplomacy into internal diplomacy, and this vice minister’s visit is also a kind of internal diplomacy over diplomacy. It’s for the domestic people.”

“It’s the Chinese Communist Party that’s really doing the splitting.”

Taiwan has been a focal point of the Biden administration since it took office, with increasingly frequent interaction between the U.S. and Taiwan. since April, the Biden administration has sent a visiting delegation to Taiwan and met with Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen; the U.S.-Japan joint statement emphasized the importance of stability in the Taiwan Strait; U.S. aircraft carriers and military aircraft have stepped up patrols of the Taiwan Strait; and there has been recent news that the U.S. will continue arms sales to Taiwan.

The Associated Press reporter also asked about Taiwan in the interview. Le Yucheng said: “The Chinese government has no room for compromise or concessions on the Taiwan issue. We are firmly opposed to any form of official U.S.-Taiwan exchanges, whether at low or high levels. The U.S. should not play the ‘Taiwan card,’ which is a dangerous card.” And so on.

Su Ziyun said Le Yucheng and other CCP officials are repeating the usual official rhetoric, with nothing new. He said, “The Chinese Communist Party is a one-party dictatorship, and my observation is that the Communist Party is repeating the extreme leftist line of the Cultural Revolution, so including Yang Jiechi, director of the Foreign Affairs Office, and then Le Yucheng, vice minister of Foreign Affairs, they are probably repeating what they say like a tape recorder, with no special meaning.”

In response to the Chinese Communist Party’s “one China” and “reunification” topics, Su Ziyun said that the real separatist is the Chinese Communist Party, both in terms of history and the current situation, we can see that the real problem lies with the Chinese Communist Party.

He said, “The Chinese Communist Party is the culprit in splitting China. In 1931, the CCP first divided China by establishing the Chinese Soviet Republic; the second time was the establishment of the People’s Republic of China in 1949. In the international community, the CCP speaks of the one-China policy, but internally it is a communist policy, that is, the CCP constitution stipulates that only the CCP is the legal ruling party, and that all military, police, armed police and public security officers must pledge allegiance to the CCP and accept the leadership of the party. So the problem is with the CCP itself, not with Taiwan or the United States.”

On behalf of the Biden administration and the president himself, the U.S. ambassador to Japan and the ambassador to the Netherlands, all of whom are active officials, have met with the Taiwanese ambassador, so the so-called “low-level delegation to Taiwan” argument is self-evident,” Su said.

On the other hand, Su Ziyun said, “Look at Hong Kong, look at Xinjiang, look at Mongolia, look at Falun Gong, how Falun Gong is an example, these people are just doing a religious belief, but they are being persecuted by the Communist Party indiscriminately, the problem is the Chinese Communist Party, not other countries or Taiwan.” He believes that all Taiwan has to do is to protect its democracy and freedom.

“The U.S. uses its strength to stop the CCP’s military adventures.”

The Associated Press reporter 18 specifically mentioned that the U.S. military is deploying military forces in the South China Sea. Le Yucheng responded by saying, “The United States has come all the way to the South China Sea and is flying warships and warplanes with weapons. According to statistics, in the past year the United States sent military aircraft to the South China Sea about 4,000 sorties, warships more than 130 times. What does the United States come to the South China Sea? This place in the South China Sea was originally calm, but the United States is here constantly showing off its force, making waves and creating trouble.”

In response, Su Ziyun said that the threat of the Chinese Communist Party to other countries is the crux of the problem. He said, “Why the United States will intensify the dispatch of these intelligence aircraft and warships to do observation, mainly in order to prevent China (CCP) to take military risky actions. Adventurous actions, in terms of military movements, and so also in terms of specific military threats to other countries, that’s the key to the problem.”

According to recent news alone, the CCP’s controversial actions in the Taiwan Sea, South China Sea, East China Sea and other waters include: more than 200 “fishing boats” continue to gather at the disputed NiuYu Reef; CCP military aircraft have disturbed Taiwan and crossed the center line of the Taiwan Sea for several days in a row, and at one point set a record of 25 military aircraft in a single day; the CCP aircraft carrier ” Liaoning” entered the western Pacific Ocean and conducted drills in the waters around Taiwan, etc.

Su Ziyun said, the United States, France, Germany, the Netherlands and other countries sent warships to patrol the South China Sea, the intention is clear, to use the strength to prevent the Chinese Communist Party military adventures, in fact, “the United States to China (the Chinese Communist Party), the distance is not so far, from Okinawa, Japan, to the relevant waters of China, the plane one and a half hours to arrive”.

Su Ziyun said that the Chinese Communist Party is truly unreasonable to disturb Taiwan, the United States, Japan and the Western countries are very clear, and the Chinese Communist Party’s move “will not only threaten regional security, but also the survival of the Chinese Communist regime”. Taiwan “has only one way to go, to strengthen its own defense forces in order to prevent war”.

In the middle of this month, Biden and Japanese Prime Minister Kan issued a joint statement after their summit, emphasizing stability in the Taiwan Strait. At the time, Su Ziyun analyzed that it was Beijing’s aggressive expansion policy that prompted the U.S. and Japan to turn to strategic clarity, and also to turn Washington’s Taiwan Strait policy from strategic ambiguity to clarity, and he expected the U.S. to strengthen its military power in the Taiwan Strait, East China Sea and South China Sea, hoping that Taiwan, the U.S. and Japan could ally together against the Chinese Communist Party in the future.